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Showing posts with label bankroll. Show all posts
Showing posts with label bankroll. Show all posts

Friday, May 22, 2015

Bug's Poker Tip #47

Bankroll Management: You Need A Lot


Let's start by pointing out that you're probably not going to like what I have to say on this subject: You need a lot more money in your bankroll than you probably think you do. You need more than most successful professional players say you need. You need more than your wife says, your poker mates advise, and the majority of the advice books, forums, and experts counsel. 

The truth is you need a big-ass bankroll if you're going to play no-limit hold'em.

A short Bug Tip like this is not the place to go into a lot of math and statistics on the subject, but suffice it to say that big downswings--even if you're playing perfectly--happen on a regular basis to everyone, even the pros. It's not uncommon for the best no-limit players to suffer 20, 30, even 40 buy-in drops in their bankroll. Variance happens, folks, even to expert players.

And guess what? You're not an expert at no-limit. You are not one of the best no-limit players in the world. You don't play perfectly 100% of the time. Your downswings can be bigger than 20-40 buy-ins. I've know very good players that have lost 50 buy-ins in long, soul-crushing stretches. I know this because I've helped them analyze their hand histories and reviewed their results after the damage is done. And it's shocking how much damage the variance monster can cause.

So let's cut to the chase. How much money should a reasonably competent low-stakes player keep in his bankroll?

Remember, I said you're not going to like the answer. Of course it all depends on a number of factors, including the mental fortitude of the player, the skill of his typical opponents, and a host of other things, but if pressed, my own personal recommendation for bankroll size of a beginning or intermediate player is that you need 100 buy-ins for the stakes you play.

Yes, 100 buy-ins!

This means if you play $0.05/$0.10 no-limit, you should have a cool $1,000 in your 'roll. Like to play the $0.50/$1.00 tables? Better have $10,000 squirreled away. And so on.

Of course you don't have to have all this money online at one specific instance in time, nor does it mean you're supposed to bring that much to Vegas with you if you want to sit and play for a weekend. But it does mean you need at least this much set aside in your walled-off poker-only fund, strictly for poker use and nothing else. The reason is to keep you from ever going broke. And, more importantly, keep you sane along the way.

Poker is chock-full of variance. And your bankroll size is the chief weapon to fight its ill effects. Make sure you have enough, or the variance monster will take your ability to play away.

(Oh, and don't even get me started on PLO variance...argh.)

All-in for now...
-Bug

Sunday, August 17, 2014

Sunday Sundries

The poker bookshelf in my leaky abode. [Click to enlarge]

Had some family emergencies crop up this weekend that caused my trip to the Arizona State Poker Championship to get canceled. Mother-in-law took a tumble and seriously hurt her back, and my Dad had emergency car issues he needed help with. While it's nice living in the same town as these parents, they're all getting up there in age and it seems like the frequency of them needing help from us is increasing.  Sigh. Gonna have to plan a Vegas trip to play in some tourneys to make up for missing this big tourney-- assuming no more last minute emergencies.

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Listened to a Thinking Poker podcast this week and the guest was Tony Dunst... and I was kind of surprised at my reaction listening to him speak. I've been a fan of his commentary in the televised WPT events on TV, and while the jacket and tie shtick is a bit silly, I've always thought of him as an otherwise regular guy. Bzzzt. Bottom line is Dunst comes off as a self-important douche in the interview. He reminds me of one of the junior engineers I used to work with who had the world all figured out-- and of course it revolved around him. My opinion of Dunst definitely dropped a few notches after listening to his theories on life. No, nothing he said is particularly horrible... he just comes off as pretty shallow and self-centered. Sad.

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Had a good week online. Lots of lucrative $100NL Zone poker to pad the 'roll, plenty of profitable $400NL 6max to keep me sharp, and some donations back to the poker gods in $100 PLO to keep me humble. Gonna let it all ride until the end of the month and then make a nice little withdraw if things continue as they are going. Woot.
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Played in my monthly bar tournament and bubbled the damn final table again for the third time in a row. It's cheap and a fun group of guys, so I'll keep playing in it, but the blind structure definitely favors luck over skill, especially after the first hour of play. I got down to 17 big blinds and woke up to AKs. Two limps in front of me by relatively weak players. I bump it to 4x and both yahoos call. Flop is A-Q-3 rainbow. Check-check-I jam and get insta-called by both. First guy turns over QQ for middle set. Second guy turns over AA for top set.... and my TPTK is third best and fails to improve. Whatchagonnado?

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While I was away on a recent biz trip, my bride took it upon herself to clean my home office space and get all my books sorted and stacked on bookshelves. She didn't sort the poker books, but she at least got them all into one bookshelf. I just counted this morning: 247 of the crazy things. Most of them bought second hand at used bookstores. Some great, some good, some bad, some truly terrible. And yes, I've read almost every single one. Really.
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Non Poker News Follows...

Getting some great thunderstorms this summer, with lots of desert-nourishing rain coming down in bucketfuls every other afternoon. Bad news is I have a crazy intermittent leak in the house that only shows up every fourth rainfall or so. Manifests itself as damp carpeting in one of the rooms. I've spent hours chasing this down but no dice. Argh. Gonna spend another afternoon today poking around some more in the nooks and crannies of the structure looking for the pathway for this agua into the casa.

All-in for now...
-Bug

Sunday, May 4, 2014

Rough Patches


Got a slew of biz trips coming up, including a week-long nasty one starting this afternoon. Blog posts are going to be a little spare... or not. As usual, the cadence of said post are strongly a function of jet lag. Have I mentioned I currently hate my job?

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The Bankroll Builder exercise has hit a bit of a rough patch. Yes, we've been running bad, but the truth also is that we're simply pushing too hard. I stated in the last update that we planned to start ramping up things once we hit the $200 mark, but this has just resulted in us starting to rollercoaster up and down from $200 to $240 and back. Time to tighten things back up.

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One of the annual traditions at my house for the past few years is taping the Kentucky Derby during the afternoon, and then watching the whole thing late that same night. Now, I'm not a horse guy, and my wife really doesn't like any kind of televised sports (save for the Olympics, that is), but for some reason we now make it a point of watching this crazy spectacle-- all 3.5 hours of it. Last night was no exception. Takeout Chinese Food (at my house) + Crazy Hats (on TV) + Exciting Race = Fun Evening. Heck, I even picked two of the top three finishers. Now if I had only visited an OTB establishment ahead of the race...

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Still no Full Tilt Remission. Grrrrrr....

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Even though I 'm not personally playing in it this year, I'm nonetheless starting to get excited for the WSOP to kick off. Ya just gotta love the drama and intrigue that is Vegas in early summer every year.

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Is there anything more annoying than music and/or other sound effects that auto-play on blogs and websites when you visit them? There are a couple of blogs I read regularly that do just this, and there is no apparent way of turning off what I consider to be a) obnoxious music; and b) stupid sound effects, respectively on the two sites. Tip to blog owners: you may think that gangsta rap is cool, but taste is subjective, and probably more people dislike the tune you love than like it. Hell, I've actually stopped visiting one site in the past due to the loud and overpowering sound of random fireworks exploding that can't be stopped on this otherwise good blogger's site.

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And speaking of music, an acquaintance of mine defines rap as Retards Attempting Poetry, which is sophomoric, but still makes me giggle every time I hear it.

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Full disclosure: I actually own a couple of Eminem songs. Seriously. Perfect workout music, even if it is (c)rap.

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Have I mentioned that I hate my job?

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All-in for now...
-Bug


Tuesday, April 29, 2014

Miscellaneous Ramblings


Bankroll Builder. As part of the online education of e-pal (who resides Down Under, btw), I asked him to create his own pregame checklist of things to focus-on/remember during an upcoming session of poker. Number one on his list was:

"Gap Concept - If there is any doubt: FOLD!"

To which I immediately nodded my head and thought:

"Wow. My work here is nearly done."
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Tilt Hills. Am still fine-tuning my tilt hill and, specifically, the eight major categories of tilt. For instance, this morning I renamed the "anguish" tilt category to a more general category of "frustration." The mildest form of this would be mild irritation or annoyance. The most severe would be what Mike Caro once labeled "Despondent Tilt," or "The Point of No Return."  It's been a long, long time since I felt that one, but I remember it as if it were yesterday. I don't care anymore, just take my money....

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Side Glances. The title in today's post comes from one of my favorite columnists of all time: the incomparable Peter Egan of Road and Track fame. For years and years I subscribed to R&T, even through the dark days, primarily for Egan's monthly column. Hell, I even subscribed to Cycle World for a while because he penned an awesome monthly there, too. If you're into the internal combustion engine at all, this is a writer to search out.

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Work. I currently hate my job. I've been assigned what is effectively a second full-time undertaking, which is essentially me being asked to step in and "fix" a dysfunctional, out-of-control group of engineers and scientists. I know very little about the subject matter of the group (high-level science related), the personalities are either very strong minded with their own agendas, or weak/timid folk, and most of the work has already left the station (on uncertain paths). Oh, and I get to double my travel away from home. Joy.

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Big Bad Government. Still haven't received my Full Tilt remission. I must be on some sort of blacklist. Grrr.


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All-in for now...
-Bug

Wednesday, April 23, 2014

Bankroll Builder - 17 Days Into Experiment

Been managing to play every day with e-pal for the past 17 days, with session lengths ranging anywhere between 15 minutes and a full hour, but usually around 25 minutes. We had a couple of rough sessions this past weekend when we ran terribly (sets cracked twice and villain backdoor suckouts galore), but we've come back the last couple of days with strong performances and recovered those losses.  We've now played just under 8 hours in total over the seventeen sessions, averaging $16.33/hour for the effort. Not bad for micro-stakes play. If/when we hit $200 in profit, we'll jump up in limits and rev the experiment up a bit. Here's e-pal's update graph he just sent:


All-in for now...
-Bug

Saturday, April 12, 2014

Bankroll Builder

I've been exchanging some email with a blog reader who claims it's impossible to build a bankroll at the microstakes these days. He says the competition is too good, the rake too high, and the bad beats legion.

I disagree.

Yes, the competition has gotten significantly better in the past few years (especially since Black Friday), but there are still many, many fundamental mistakes made at the microstakes by many, many players.

Yes, too, the rake is disproportionately high at the microstakes. But the dead money at the tables more than makes up for it.

And yes, the bad beats are there. Perhaps more than at the higher stakes, in fact. But as I've written before (e.g., here), bad beats are a good thing. Seriously. Bad beats, by definition, means you're getting your money in good.

But my e-pal remained unconvinced. So we've done some sessions together online. Specifically, I earmarked/set-aside $25 of my Bovada bankroll to a 'roll building exercise/coaching session. I'm only playing $5 zone poker tables (primarily to get in volume, plus we're working on the reader's preflop hand selection, which the zone tables are ideal for).

We're playing daily, with 45 minute sessions, all with said reader looking over my virtual shoulder, asking questions, and generally hearing my RED-i thought process spoke aloud.

He's tasked with keeping records of the profit and loss of each session (to keep the exercise honest), and we're going to play 30 sessions altogether.

Here's his record of the 'roll after five of our daily sessions:


I'll report back as the experiment progresses through the 30 days.

All-in for now...
-Bug

Sunday, March 30, 2014

Bug's Poker Tip #39

Poker Scores Ain't Like Football Scores

I got this one from a really old David Sklansky training video. It's kind of obvious, but important nonetheless. Here's the idea: In football, it doesn't matter if you lose 30-28 or 30-0, you still lose the game, period. The actual score doesn't matter the next day or the next week. In poker, the score at the end of a session does matter. This is because in poker the "score" is cumulative to your bankroll. Poker is best thought of as one long session that continues for years. If you go on tilt in even one session and dump off a lot of money, you will hurt your overall bottom line for the year. It's like starting the next session in the hole. You don't want to spot the other side a handful of touchdowns before the kick-off, right? You need the discipline to a) recognize tilt as it's coming on; and b) leave the table before the other side runs the score up on you. Just punt and go for a walk. Your bankroll at the end of the year will thank you.

All-in for now...
-Bug

Saturday, July 27, 2013

Poker Piggy Banks: Bankroll Management 101


Well, there's no time like the present to jump and start putting together some lesson notes and outlines, and the place that seems best to start is on the bottom rung of the pyramid, all the way to the left:


This bad boy anchors the lower left corner of the entire pyramid because, in my humble opinion, it is perhaps the most important of all off-table prep skills you can master as a newbie to poker. Is it sexy? Uh, no. Is it important? Uh, yes. Actually, a better way to state this is: HELL YES! 

Personally, proper bankroll management (BRM) has always been my nemesis. Said simply: it's been the single biggest leak in my poker career. I still struggle with it. For whatever reason, I have perpetually found it really, really, really  hard to play within my bankroll limitations. Because of this I've had some really, really, really big swings in my game, coming close a few times in the past to breaking the proverbial poker piggy bank. And I'm not alone; a big fraction of players--especially new ones--move too fast and far up the stakes ladder--usually because they're running good--and eventually go busto because they're playing way above their skill, abilities.... and most importantly: their bankroll limitations.

The first thing I need to do in this lesson set is define some terms, such as what bankroll actually is. The way I see it, there are really two types of bankroll: 1) the amount you have immediately available to play with (e.g., your account size for online gaming, or the amount in your left front pocket or in a box behind the cage in live games at the casino); and 2) the total, macro, global amount of money you can afford to lose in toto playing poker, period. While the former is important, it's the latter that really matters. Why? Because that old adage still applies: a poker player's bankroll is like a carpenter's hammer; you can't go to work without the tools of your trade available. Lose your tool (bankroll) and you can't play. Period.

I also need to (ultimately) explain how to calculate/determine what stakes you should be playing at given your bankroll size (that's the whole point of this lesson, right?) but to do that I need to explain the concept of variance and risk of ruin. It's really hard for a newbie to buy into (no pun intended) the idea that BRM is so important and simply has to be abided by without giving some concrete examples.

And this all goes back to our old friend Expected Value. As I've been pondering this particular BRM lesson plan, I've been researching and experimenting around with the EV formula. Assuming you learn to get your money in good with your poker decisions, then over time EV will work out in the long run, and you will get rich. But the required long run can be, well, significantly long. And, more importantly, you need a theoretically large amount of money to start with to cover the occasional (but certain to appear) big downswing. There's the whole concept called "Risk of Ruin" or RoR in gambling that I will explain in this lesson set, but the easiest way to visualize it is with some simple examples.

For instance, I've played around recently with some coin flip and dice rolling simulations in an Excel spreadsheet, and the results were eye opening. For example, one basic sim I ran was the classic dice rolling EV example of "I'll give you $1 if the dice comes up on 1, 2, 3, 4, or 5, but you have to give me $6 if the roll comes up on the 6". Simple math can show us that the EV of this gamble is in our favor; the expectation of a single roll is $0.17, so in general you should take the bet if you can…. but there are obviously no guarantees you're going to make money on a single roll of the dice. In fact, 5 out of 6 times you roll the die you're going to be handing a buck over to the other guy. But over the course of time--meaning a large number of rolls--you will come out ahead at the average rate of 17-cents per roll.

Okay, fine. This is just EV in action, right? Well, yes, but the interesting part is just how much the results fluctuate in reality, how long it can take for the results to even out and show a profit, and, more importantly, how much initial starting bankroll you'd need to take this bet. I ran a simulation  in a spreadsheet with 1000 rolls of the dice and was pleased to see that the results matched pretty closely to what the theoretical solution should have been; the first time I ran the simulation the net profit realized by taking the bet climbed steadily upward to a little over $175, which is almost perfectly spot on with the theoretical expectation of $170 (i.e., $0.17 x 1000 trials). Here's the graph of that first sim:


Note that there were some nearly $50 swings up and down along the way, but overall: woo hoo, EV works... but then I ran the 1000 sims again and… wow, this time I dropped over $30 immediately over the course of 200 rolls before coming back to show a modest profit of $72. Hell, it wasn't until after 400+ rolls of the dice that I actually stayed above zero profit. Also, the chart was really "choppy" and not smooth. Here's that second sim chart:

Folks, this is called variance, and it really intrigued me, so I ran the simulation over and over (25 times in total), noting how much I made overall each time, but also how much the graph swung up and down along the way. I was expecting swings, but the results really surprised me; I was expecting variance, but not this much. Most of the time everything worked out fine, and after 25 sets of 1000 dice rolls, I indeed made on average the theoretical $170 profit. Sometimes I made significantly more than the theory said I should, such as this 1000-roll example that netted me $250:


Sometimes I barely broke even, like this next run, below. Note that I was actually still $110 in the hole at around the 700th roll of the dice, and didn't even break zero until well past the 900th roll:


And occasionally, I ended up losing money, despite starting relatively strong. In this particular example I finished in the hole $40:


So what's all this dice rolling mean to us poker players? Variance happens, dude, that's what. And while we're rolling dice in these examples, this scenario is actually quite similar to poker situations you face all the time on the felt. For example, let's say you're on the river with over cards against a villain's made under pair, facing a bet, and the immediate pot odds are sufficient to draw. Most of the time you're not going to get there, but when you do make an over pair you will more than make up for the times you lose. Said another way: plus EV is plus EV, folks, whether it's dice or cards or the ponies.

And this leads to the ultimate lesson of this lesson: you need a bankroll significantly large enough to handle the swings of whatever game you're playing and it's expected EV. Poker is tricky to pin down in this regard, primarily because there are so many different draws, value hands, bluffs, etc., not to mention implied odds to factor in. But these can actually all be accounted for, and general bankroll guidelines created for your particular playing style and risk aversion level. Which is what I will do in this lesson.

To recap, in this lesson, I'm going to:
  • Define the key terms, like bankroll, BRM, variance, and risk of ruin.
  • Explain with examples (like the dice rolling one) how variance can get you broke, quick. I'll also give examples in poker, of course. (And I'll do yet another reiteration that poker is a game of the long run, and that in the short run it can be frustrating as hell due to just the short term effects of chance).
  • Provide rules of thumb for minimum bankroll size to minimize your risk of ruin (and, while the focus of my lessons is on cash game play, I'll give some guidelines for SnGs and tourneys, too.) These rules of thumb will necessarily be based on the concept of risk aversion and your style of play.
  • Give rules of thumb on when you can/should move up to the next level/stakes.
  • Discuss the importance (and method) of moving down when the 'roll gets too small (and give some advice on how to handle the psychological aspects to moving down in stakes).
  • Talk about strategies for actually taking money out of your bankroll. The purpose of playing poker, ultimately, is to actually make money (and spend it), right? Ergo, managing your 'roll to allow for variance (but also to allow for withdraws) is a balancing act, but one that can be actively managed with some simple guidelines.
  • Finally, give some closing thoughts on:
    • The dangers of playing too small w.r.t. your bankroll (i.e., playing too small leads to poor, loose, inattentive play), which is just as dangerous as playing too high (i.e., playing "scared" and unable to make +EV draws and other high variance plays)
    • Absolute vs. Relative utility of money and bankrolls, and why +EV bets should sometimes be passed on.
    • The dangers (and rewards) of "taking shots" at the higher limits, and when this is appropriate.
I'm still outlining and pondering this topic, so more will be added as I delve into it deeper.

As usual, comments and suggestions are most welcome...

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In other news, saw this on Twitter from Phil the Duck today:

$1,000 buy in, $1 Million Guarantee! My next poker tournament, Phoenix, Aug 9: At beautiful Talking Stick Resort

If I wasn't traveling that week, I was seriously considering playing in this AZ State Championship tourney. Guess Phil will have to take it down by himself...

All-in for now...
-Bug